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Sent: 15 July 2008 03:37
Subject: The self bondage computer controlled chair
I love the site. I enjoyed reading about diaper domination and I
thought I was the only one alive who had ever thought about electric
diaper training however a google search brought me to your site and
proved that I am not alone.
I have this idea for a self
bondage chair that has sensors, plug(s), a gag, and electrodes
controlled by a computer.
The restraints would be held by
electromagnets and released by a timer. The electrodes, pumps,
sensors, on the chair would be monitored and controlled by
programmable computer software. The sensors would be "cause or if"
variables and the controllable actions such as like electroshock or
inflate would be "effect or then" variables. Add a time for effect
to last variable, size for inflatable, speed for vibration, and
intensity for electro shock variables and you have a very intense
experience. There could also be random setting to really mess with
I have included a VERY rough
diagram with some ideas and a drawing of the chair. This smart
chair could be used for diaper training and remote training by a top
using a web cam to see the subject. Fully automatic punishment would
be given for lying (computer asks questions, if it
detects a lie it using stress detection). It could run tests -
punishment for wrong answers (subject has a button at each hand, one
of them is the right answer and will not have an effect the other
has the wrong answer and an effect).
I hope you will post this so
that maybe someone would actually build and sell this or something
like it. Keep up the good work on the site.
Text of this project in more
Sent: 15 May 2009 16:23
Subject: Electric Training Diapers - the next level!
Glad to see you guys back on line - you have
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I have experimented both as top and bottom
with things like the Electric Training Diapers described on your
I have found the electric training diapers
rather awkward in that they are only single use, once the the diaper
is wet the subject may as well fill the diaper. That is the subject
has no incentive to control themselves once they start to wet! In
addition the “training” must be interrupted every few hours for a
diaper change, and it is hard to keep the subject from wetting
without permission during this change.
As a result I have developed a "flow
controller" which delivers a shock if the subject wets without
In the female version the belt consists of a
plastic cup which is held over the genital area by a belt. The
outside edge of the cup has a metal coating which acts as a “ground”
connection to the body. The lowest point of the cup has a small hole
drilled into it with a small electrode held about 5 mm away from the
urine outlet. A second, larger hole is drilled about 15mm higher
than the first hole and has the “flow control” electrode held just
outside of it.
The male version is similar except that the
”cup” fits over the penis, with the ”ground” at the base of the
penis. A tube such as a modified CB-3000 works well for this, but
just about any tube that can be held firmly in place will work well.
While no urine flows the plastic cup acts as
an insulator,no current flows and no pain is felt. Small drips of
urine (or sweat) also has no effect since there is no current path.
However once a continuous flow starts, no matter how small the
stream, then the electricity will flow up the stream to the
subject's body – typically the urethra! This provides an immediate
and sharp “jab” sensation which continues so long as urine is
flowing, then stops once the subject stops the flow!
In this way there is only pain when the
subject actually wets, once he/she stops then the pain will stop! In
practice there is some delay due to wet surfaces and allowing the
urine to drain through the relatively small hole. Knowing that they
can stop the pain only by controlling the flow provides a strong
incentive to provide that control.
For long term wear it has proved useful
useful to have a second electrode which is positioned somewhat
higher, but with a much higher electricity level - this "encourages"
the subject to maintain a low to moderate rate of flow and is very
Thus even when “permission to pee” is given,
the actual flow permitted by the subject must still be carefully
controlled – we call it “slow pee”. Of course if the subject does
not have permission to pee then the extra pain of the second
electrode encourages the subject to retain as much control as
This second hole and electrode is my current
topic for experimentation, getting the correct hole sizes so that
the subject can, with difficulty, avoid the higher pain level is
taking some experimentation. About a 2-3 mm hole for the "primary"outlet
seems to be about right, but it would be nice to figure out some way
to actually adjust this “slow” flow rate.
So far we have not played with anything
beyond what I would call a "mild" pain level, nothing enough to
cause muscle paralysis or involuntary movement.
Since this device is based on a chastity
belt concept, it can me made relatively mobile and this can be
suited for moderately long term wear. The subject does need to wear
a diaper and plastic pants, but otherwise the subject can be allowed
to move around with relative freedom.
Since we have not “armored” the wires, we
secure the TENS unit inside a zip-lock bag then fasten it together
with the electrode wires inside locking plastic pants! This is far
from foolproof, but it is sufficiently protected that no subject has
managed to disable the controller so far. The threat of an extra
hour (or more!) before the next “permission to pee” has discouraged
any serious attempts to disable the device.
So far we have had numerous “training
sessions” lasting 12 to 24 hours. We have had one subject wear this
device continuously for 48 hours, with “permission to pee” given
about every three to four hours. During this time the secondary or
“slow” electrode proved to be quite a challenge for her!